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Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

Dune Part 2 already started down the Dune Messiah path. Also, I suppose it's all a matter of perspective, but having seen all of Villeneuve's other films, I don't think he really does happy endings :) He does some of the most gut wrenching endings of any film maker. I've seen 3 DV movies, not count...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

Unfortunately it also lets those of us who have, hmmm, crested the hill age out a bit too, LOL! :o I also had thought about how slim DM is and how that might present a challenge. When you brought it up I thought you were going to praise your favorite source material expansion (the Hobbit movie trilo...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

<t>I saw just the other day that DV is now saying that he will not make Messiah unless he's sure that he can make it a better movie than part two. IMHO given the weakness of the source material, that's an impossibly high bar to hurdle. He has also said that he's thinking now that it may be good to d...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

Since I'm not going to hyperventilate if the movie doesn't follow the book (whether by alterations/additions/omissions) do you still recommend skipping the reread prior to seeing the movies? That's up to you. I'm just going by the reaction of two friends who re-read Dune before seeing it, and wishe...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

I read Machine Crusade and the other two books in that trilogy, as Herbert and Anderson said it helped to read those books before reading their two Dune sequels that were supposed to take up where Herbert's last book left off, finishing his story. They were not terrible, but they were not particula...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

I haven't actually talked to very many people who have either read the Anderson/Brian Herbert books or posted videos about them on YouTube, but the very limited sampling I do have suggest they are not very good. I actually read one of them, the machine crusade, I believe And thought it was OK. I tho...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

Speaking of Dune, I gather that the streaming series has had its name changed from Dune: The Sisterhood to Dune: Prophecy. Supposedly it will premiere late this year but given the development hell it's been in, I'm going to consider it vaporware until I see it appear on my screen. Is it based on the...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

You should count yourself very fortunate that you never saw the Lynch version. And also the SyFy version, though to a lesser extent than the Lynch version. Oh I wouldn't be quite so harsh, personally. Yes there's a lot of wacky stuff in the '84 movie, and it is clearly a product of its time, but th...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

I saw this the day it opened here in the UK. I had one of the worst experiences in a theatre I’ve had. Usually I love seeing movies on the big screen but I’d had a bad day at work, I was tired and really my mind wasn’t ready for Dune. Throughout the movie I was kicked repeatedly in the back, people...

Re: Asimov's Foundation novels

Yeah, I read about the whole budget battle and demotion of Goyer. What's even more disturbing than that is that the guy who's now calling the shots on the day to day stuff is a past president of Skydance known for cost cutting. I don't recall whether we ever heard how much this show costs though it ...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

... I haven’t read the book and I could have done with a bit more explanation as to why things were happening. ... But again, I didn’t have a great overall experience which has probably influenced my feelings on the movie, at least until I see it again. I do want to see it again before it finishes ...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

A quick tale about using enough exposition to establish points, and repeating as necessary to make sure they're driven in. One time many years ago I sat down with friends to watch the return of the king. It gets to the end of the movie and the one guy says, why does he get to be king? He had seen al...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

All this discussion caused me to pull up the movie on my Max app and watch the opening part of it. Chani's prologue does stress that the spice is important, but not really why. That's in the book film that Paul watches. In any case, watching the first 10 minutes or whatever, even on my iPhone, remin...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

I think it's possible, when you know the story inside and out, to fail to accurately track how much essential detail you are getting in or leaving out when you're trying to adapt it into a film. Also, he may have gone back and watched the 1984 version with all of its interior monologues voiced over,...

Re: Denis Villeneuve's Dune

This is all intriguing and I am glad to be able to read it spoiler free. I haven't heard any real spoilers for part two except for one that isn't really for certain. it's somebody's supposition that I saw on a video, but it may be what you are alluding to, Kit. But in any case, comments about feelin...

Re: Pure Star Trek Discussion

No, I have never heard that. Banned where?

There was an episode of the next generation that dealt with terrorism and whether it was an effective means to an end, and Data remarked that it helped bring about the Irish Reunification of 2024. That got that episode banned in the UK!

Re: Picard returns!

Exactly what I've heard. I'm actually surprised they're still going ahead with the Section 31 movie, which at this point seems like little more than a thinly-veiled attempt to cash-in on the popularity and bankability of Michelle Yeoh. What they don't seem to be aware of is how generally reviled Di...

Re: Picard returns!

Now he says he would like to do one more, one off Picard movie. In the memoir, he seems to want to see Picard find love and be married. On a related note, with the recent rumblings of Paramount looking to merge/be sold off to another company, it could very well mean this remains forever in the real...

Re: Picard returns!

It makes me wonder if he's gotten a bit dotty. First he says he wants a movie where Picard is scared and confused, but now he wants him to be married? I guess it could all be one movie. But I think there is precisely want person who wants this movie, and that's Patrick Stewart.

Re: Pure Star Trek Discussion

There is a documentary coming out about Shatner: https://trekmovie.com/2024/02/01/watch-trailer-for-william-shatner-you-can-call-me-bill-documentary-coming-in-march/ Shatner really is a larger than life figure. It's hard to imagine that someday he won't be around anymore, even though that day is und...

Re: Picard returns!

The epilogue he wanted for season 3 was not the poker game, but rather him at home in the chateau and from off-camera his unidentified wife calls out to him that dinner is ready. I'm sure there are aspects to his book that would be interesting. It's just that my 400-book unread backlog is causing me...

Re: Picard returns!

I'll confess to very mild interest in the topic but not strong enough to read the book...or listen to him narrate it, even. But I'm glad you enjoyed!

Now if I want to know something about Patrick Stewart, I'll just ask you. ;-)

Re: Happy New Year!

Believe it or not, the end of another year is upon us. Or may be already past, depending on where in the world you live!

I extend my sincere wishes to everyone for a happy, healthy, 2024, free from stress and filled with all sorts of good things that you want.

Re: Happy Thanksgiving!

Happy Thanksgiving to our American members, and a belated happy Thanksgiving to our Canadian members. The border was on my mind yesterday, as the news broke of a car exploding on one of the bridges at Niagara Falls. As more information starts to become available, it sounds like it was just a random ...

Re: Expanded edition of Letters of JRR Tolkien coming in November

Last night's TORN podcast/video was about this book. It is being significantly enlarged over the first edition. It will feature ~150 totally new letters and ~45 letters expanded from their previously shortened version. Addressing the potential question of how the book is still credited to Humphrey C...

Re: The Expanse

I have not read the books. I have read that the show follows them reasonably closely, although diverging in the minor way that adaptations often do, through combining characters, etc., and sometimes in some more major ways. However, the authors of the book series also served as writers and producers...

The Expanse

I don't recall whether we've ever discussed this show, but it was a great sci-fi series. The first three seasons aired on SyFy and the second three on Amazon Prime. Hopefully someday someone will pick it up again and film the last three books. In the meantime, lo and behold, the entire existing seri...

Re: Picard returns!

I can't say I like these ideas: https://trekmovie.com/2023/10/05/patrick-stewart-wants-one-more-shot-at-a-star-trek-movie-to-play-a-truly-fearful-jean-luc-picard/ While Patrick Stewart has reasons as an actor to want to explore Picard in positions of being clueless and fearful, I don't want to see t...

Re: Picard returns!

Yes, Virginia, there is a replacement disc for folks who bought the Picard Season 3 set and want to get the version with the cooler video effect on the Enterprise flyby. https://trekmovie.com/2023/09/29/follow-up-how-to-get-replacement-discs-for-star-trek-picard-the-final-season-dvd-blu-ray/ Kudos t...

Re: Picard returns!

I popped the season three Blu-ray on last night and watched a bit of an episode just to see how it looks. It's amazing how much better the show looks and sounds on Blu-ray than it does on streaming. They obviously compress the hell out of the show to squeeze it through the internet. This is just one...

Re: Asimov's Foundation novels

Just re-read the books... shouldn't take you but a few months of leisurely reading... and think how many times you can do it in less than 12 years. Unfortunately, reading is something that seems to have fallen out of my life, but regrettably, buying books has not. I'm not sure why that is, but for ...

Re: Asimov's Foundation novels

Here's an article where Asimov's daughter Robyn talked about liking the character development on the show, and admitting that her father's focus in writing stories was telling the story, not writing interesting characters. https://collider.com/foundation-season-2-characters-robyn-asimov-comments/#:~...

Re: Picard returns!

I don't know if anyone has been following this, but the BluRay release of the final season contains, in the final episode, an alternate version of a very quick shot of the Enterprise, compared to what was seen on Paramount +. Story is that they did a more interesting version (added a nebula in the b...

Re: LOTR movie trilogy 20th anniversary

Ironically, I've been seeing that video listed in my YouTube feed recently but had not watched it, figuring rightly that either it would contain no unseen footage or that it would be in very poor video quality. But it was interesting to watch. I'm very mixed on the likelihood of whether we will ever...

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