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Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

I do agree with you assessment of Sauron's two errors in judgment, but I don't really hold them against him as bone-headed moves for the following reasons: - In the case of creating the One Ring, yes... it may seem in retrospect that it was a very foolhardy thing to do, but the benefit of hindsight ...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

Good point I don't think they would intervene in the fate of middle-earth once more.....maybe someone disagrees? I firmly believe they would not interfere again, unless strictly ordered by Eru himself. Recall that it took a great deal of time and persuasion before they came to Beleriand in the War ...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

Most of you have touched on the obvious answer: Sauron would achieve complete and unopposed dominion over all of Middle-earth simply because there would be no one left to contend against him. Yes, he had been stopped once, but the War of the Ring was a pale shadow of the vast armies of the Last Alli...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

I'm also in the "Balrogs do have wings" camp, but I don't believe comparing them to dragons is a very good idea. I say this because I noticed an error in Olorin's analysis of the topic (forgive me, friend.) The Balrogs were not given their shapes by Morgoth, they were trapped in that shape...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

As I stated before, there is nothing wrong with differing opinions so long as they are put forth in a manner which does not demean and insult the intelligence of others. Again, I submit this article on the issue of Sauron and his shape. It points out various inconsistencies in the dialogue of the mo...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

Here's another complex and lengthy dissertation on the Balrog issue, if you feel inclined to read... it is quite good, and concludes the essay in favour of wings. http://www.xenite.org/tolkien/do-balrogs-have-wings.html For my part, I must say I always envisioned them having wings and being capable ...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

Here's a good and very unbiased look at the paramount question of Tolkien's texts: Do Balrogs have wings, and can they fly? http://tolkien.slimy.com/essays/TAB6.html http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/flightless.html And further to Sauron and his shape in the Third Age issue: http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

what got me "perturbed" is that back a few threads there was a whole big disscussion about Saurons physical form and it just irritated me because it such a simple thing to understand and certain ppl just kept going on and on about how hes physical and im just like"NOO you got it sooo...

Re: Preview of the Sauron statue

To anyone interested: Sideshow just announced that due to some cancellations before the pictures of the statue were revealed, that they are now recalling the wait list for the Sauron statue. What does this mean? It means that if you want a chance at getting Sauron, this is your last and best opportu...

Re: Uruk-Hai Scimitar changes

No changes as far as I know. Are you sure you're not looking at a counterfeit? You'd be amazed at how many diverse fakes are floating around out there, some even good enough to fool the unwary. Be sure to look for the UC stamp somewhere on the blade.

Re: Future LOTR special edition?

Yes, I did find Saruman's fall a lot easier to swallow than Denethor's, that's for sure. I do agree that he landed way too far from the tower, but PJ couldn't resist the drama of the impalement, and when PJ puts his mind to something, no matter how silly, even the laws of physics must give way. It w...

Re: Future LOTR special edition?

I find that hard to believe, I'm sorry to say, and in the unlikely event that it is true, that is the dumbest, least plausible, and most needlessly irrational way I've ever heard of giving us a scene transition. I could have lived better with a guard spitting over the edge to see how long it would t...

Re: Minas Morgul on the way!

It could definitely be better, but it still looks ok. I won't give up on trying to get one just yet, if only for the sake of completion. Minas Tirith looks kinda lonely without something opposite to it as a DVD or bookend. Olorin, could you answer something for me? Does this miniature actually show ...

Re: Future LOTR special edition?

Has PJ even mentioned anywhere on the commentary or extras what possessed him to have Denethor take that idiotic and over-the-top, Hollywood craptacular-action flaming dive? On the subject of the multiple Palantiri, PJ did kinda lay the groundwork for that already by having Gandalf exclaim at Orthan...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

My favourite character is the unsung hero of the entire trilogy, the 10th member of the fellowship. If you think Frodo is the only one that carried a burden on the road, then think again. This character did it without complaining once, having endured a hard life at the hands of that lout, Bill Ferny...

Re: Sillmarilion Movie??

I think this is one of those books that just would not translate well to the big screen. Well, they said that about LOTR also and we were still given a very decent adaptation. But I must agree with you on this one: the sheer magnitude of the time scale involved, the epic size of the events portraye...

Re: Sillmarilion Movie??

Don't hold your breath, folks. The rights to the Silmarillion as a work are in the firm grip of the Tolkien Estate and they were firmly against the PJ movies being made. It is very doubtful anyone will ever obtain movie rights from them for this book. Still, should something of this massive scope ev...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

This goes way back in the thread But did not Turin escape the fate of men?? heres the quote "Tuor alone of mortal Men was numbered among the elder race, and was joined with the Noldor, whom he loved; and his fate is sundered from the fate of Men. " Ok... not quite sure what you're getting...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

The Eye of Sauron is what people perceived in their mind's eye when confronted directly by Sauron. Basically an image that he projected inside of you. He did have physical form otherwise. PJ took this too literally and actually made the flaming eye be Sauron's physical representation, which is glari...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

IF PJ had but bothered to give us a little background on the prophecy that dealt with the WK's final fate, then the line as delivered by Eowyn in the movie would not have been so jarring and hoakey-sounding. This isn't to create more book vs movie argument crap, but PJ really screwed up the dialogue...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

Actually, there is another passage (can't remember the book for the life of me,) that gives two alternate names for the Blue Wizards. Each wizard had original names in Quenya: Saruman is Curumo, Gandalf is Olorin, and Radagast is Aiwendil. Once in Middle-earth, they adopted or were given the names w...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

The names of the blue wizards, Alatar and Pallando, come from Unfinished Tales pg.393-4. The colours were Saruman the White, Gandalf the Grey, Radagast the Brown, and Alatar and Pallando the Blue. Not sure what the hierarchy of colours is meant to represent, but I suspect it has something to do with...

Re: Helm of Sauron' spikes

My helm has the same problem as the one in the last link (sitting on top of the boxes.) The tall spike on the left is leaning inwards, so when you look head on at the helmet, it is not symmetrical with the tall spike on the right. Too much of an angle. There was probably more than one mold used, and...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

It is quite possible, GTW, that those Ainu that were captured at the same time as Morgoth would have been banished alongside him, though I don't imagine there were any left. The only ones of note that Tolkien ever mentioned were the Balrogs, and aside from those that may have 'died' during the confl...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

That's an interesting thesis and one which I have long supported myself. The only thing that does not seem to jive completely is Eowyn's prophecy, which seems to imply very clearly that she would send the WK to his final end, not simply a destruction of his physical form. I'm sure we could argue wha...

Re: Minas Morgul on the way!

I would never consider you the kind to gloat, my friend, I know you are way above that. I am very happy you were able to get one for yourself, my anger is simply directed at Sideshow mostly, and somewhat at those folks that posted the code without consideration for others. I'm really hoping I got on...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

When I mentioned the Balrogs and Sauron dying, I meant that in the sense that I refer to later, that of their physical forms being slain and them not being able to resume any kind of shape ever again. As for them going into the Void, I'm not sure that is correct since Tolkien never e xp lained that,...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

The Dagor Dagorath imples that Arda will be remade. As to whether that actually means the world is destroyed first is quite open to one's interpretation. Personally, I don't think that is what Tolkien meant, and thus the elves wouldn't all suddenly croak once Morgoth returned. The battle itself woul...

Re: Pure Middle-Earth discussion.

On Frodo and Bilbo: They were indeed not granted immortality, for who in Valinor had such power? Not even the Valar could do that. Remember Ar-Pharazon's arrogance and mistake when he sought to seize immortality for himself from the Valar by invading Valinor in the Second Age? Neither the Valar or t...

Re: Preview of the Sauron statue

Wow... I take back everything I said previously about this statue. It looks perfect now and I'm ever so glad I was able to order one before they sold out. I have one concern left still and that is the quality of the paint job. While the prototype looks amazing, I hope that translates well when the p...

Re: The Rattling Defect of Glamdring

I know you didn't imply I was swinging them around like an idiot, I merely said that to dispel any doubts as to what use my swords were being put to. I see that you and I are very much alike in that respect, and feel very protective about these things. On that note, I would say that anyone swinging ...

Re: The Rattling Defect of Glamdring

Trust me on this, I know well what these swords are, and I don't swing them around like an idiot. I only did it to the Witchking when I first noticed the rattle, and then only to confirm what I was hearing or feeling. So in other words, the rattle on my sword is not a result of me swinging the sword...

Re: Future LOTR special edition?

Let's stick to the topic at hand please, there are several threads on the Hobbit movie already, and most people know that for the immediate time being, it's not going to happen. As for this much-speculated upon future special edition, I'm not holding my breath. I am an avid DVD collector and have ov...

Re: Sideshow's Balrog, Flame of Udun

I just got mine today and am very happy with it also. It is a beautiful piece, nicely detailed and with a great paint job. I'm not surprised about the size at all because I already e xp ected it from the price. Only wish I'd been able to get one of the LE Balrogs though. Olorin, did you happen to no...

Re: The Rattling Defect of Glamdring

I have the same problem with my Witchking sword. It didn't used to do that, but I have moved recently and maybe it got jostled around (which I find hard to believe since I packed it in the original box.) Anyhow, now whenever I hold it or swing it, there is a clicking sound and something seems to shi...

Re: Crown of King Elessar

Thanks Anduril33. I would like to clarify that my request is not aimed at anyone specifically, but simply to all who are participating in this lively debate. It is clear both companies have their merits, and I myself collect items from both. What brings us all here is our love for our collections, a...

Re: Crown of King Elessar

While everyone's opinion is welcomed and encouraged, I would like to take a moment to ask everyone to take a breather. Discussion and presenting one's point of view are fine things, but please take care to present your arguments in a calm and polite fashion. Not much is gained by losing your cool, n...

Re: How to get the slipcase for EE

Simple enough... make friends with someone here, get them to order it for you and when they receive it, have them ship it to you and pay them with a money order or cheque. Sure it sucks that you have to pay twice for shipping, but if you want this bad enough... ;)

Re: Weight of saurons mace?

Realistically speaking, there is no way this item is going to weigh much more than Gimli's Axe, and that was a fairly heavy item as it is. Why? Shipping cost considerations. Shipping rates are determined by weight, and unless you are willing to pay a fortune to have your mace shipped to you, then UC...

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