Re: United Cutlery's - The Hobbit - Movie Props!
3751I imagine making a wooden staff of that length and thickness would easily go wrong on a lathe. Resulting in constant breakages. Probably just easier and more effective doing 2 shorter pieces.
Agreed, and doing it that way also means cheaper shipping.JJByers wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:47 pm I imagine making a wooden staff of that length and thickness would easily go wrong on a lathe. Resulting in constant breakages. Probably just easier and more effective doing 2 shorter pieces.
That is not correct. The crown is a new mold, but it is resin as before.JJByers wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:23 am I opted to just call and ask. Spoke to Jessica. The crown of the staff she says is wood now. Not resin. And yes it is still a 2 piece staff.
Well, thank heavens for Kit because it never ceases to amaze me how misinformed these UC folks are on a consistent basis.
Message sent.RevAnakin wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:49 am Anyone here in need of:
Sauron Helm
Sauron Mace
Rivendell Helm
Because I have room on all three orders for them.
https://www.facebook.com/castlekon/
The UC sales rep only has access to whatever details are in their system, which are probably confusing or incomplete regarding reissues.Valkrist wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:22 am Well, thank heavens for Kit because it never ceases to amaze me how misinformed these UC folks are on a consistent basis.
So is the new mold an actual improvement on the previous resin one, or is it the exact same, just newer?
Is the 2012 version a reissue of the first resin one? When I hear the word original, I think of the very first one with the metal crown, not poly.Nasnandos wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:05 amvisually different than the original poly crown or the 2012 version.Valkrist wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:22 am Well, thank heavens for Kit because it never ceases to amaze me how misinformed these UC folks are on a consistent basis.
So is the new mold an actual improvement on the previous resin one, or is it the exact same, just newer?
Cool, but I'm pretty sure that's Frank Victoria's design, not Paul Tobin. Alex Faulkner's crew made the props, not Peter Lyon. Nearly all the Dwarven-made weapon props were cast Urethane, so Peter was not involved. No David Salo inscription either.JJByers wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:56 am On another note... I got bored and got to tinkering around on Photoshop trying to make a "UC-esk" COA for the sad thing that is NobleCollection's Deathless.
I think that's Frank's design too.JJByers wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:43 am I'm in the process of doing one for WETA's Balin's Mace as well, but its not done yet.
Yeah, and they do not even know shipping dimensions until after the products come in. Oh, and they do not record shipping dimensions, so every time I ask for them, they call down to the warehouse and they measure. I would love for them to hire me to do process improvement. If the company wants to save money, they could just do basic Lean Six Sigma process improvement and help out there rather than lowering standards.Nasnandos wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:05 amThe UC sales rep only has access to whatever details are in their system, which are probably confusing or incomplete regarding reissues.Valkrist wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:22 am Well, thank heavens for Kit because it never ceases to amaze me how misinformed these UC folks are on a consistent basis.
So is the new mold an actual improvement on the previous resin one, or is it the exact same, just newer?
I only know a third mold was made because they wanted to model it in 3D this time. I still have an original, so I supplied photos and CAD drawings for them to work from. I have not seen a final sample in person, just photos of the pre production sample, so I'm not sure if anything will be visually different than the original poly crown or the 2012 version.
HAHA....it has been my experience that the majority of people (no matter how well educated and/or how much academic alphabet trails their name) could not reasonably estimate time (duration), weight, distance (or any linear measurement) if their life depended on it.RevAnakin wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:39 pm Does anyone have the shipping weight of Sauron's helm? One person posted 75 pounds but I simply don't believe it weighs as much as a teenage girl.
They may as well have said 75 kg, that's so ridiculous. Maybe if it was actually made of metal...RevAnakin wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:39 pm Does anyone have the shipping weight of Sauron's helm? One person posted 75 pounds but I simply don't believe it weighs as much as a teenage girl.
Thank you, I based my shipping quotes off of 24 pounds.Valkrist wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:46 pmThey may as well have said 75 kg, that's so ridiculous. Maybe if it was actually made of metal...RevAnakin wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:39 pm Does anyone have the shipping weight of Sauron's helm? One person posted 75 pounds but I simply don't believe it weighs as much as a teenage girl.
I'm guessing it's more in the neighborhood of 15 pounds, with another 15 added in for the stand, styrofoam molds, art sleeve, and shipping box, but don't quote me on that.
P.S. - That's the original helm. The new stand appears much heavier, so maybe add 5 more pounds?
Same here. I'd love to get the updated Deathless and new Balin's Mace COAs. Thank you!Valkrist wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:26 am Alrighty then! If and when you're done including Kit's corrections, could you send us the updated files, please? I'll take the one for Balin's Mace as well, but not Dwalin's Axes as I never bought those.
Sent.
Um, yeah... I knew that.Valkrist wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:17 pm I'm going to hazard a guess that when JJ mentioned Merry and Pippin's "Barrow blades", he was actually referring to the rusty can openers we got in the movie, and not the book version Numenorean daggers of yore. I say this because we were talking about things in the movies that UC will never give us, and artistic interpretation of something in the books (for which they have no license) is not likely to ever happen.
Having said that, if you just meant "hankering" for those blades in a very general sense and not in connection with UC at all, then yes, add me to that list please!
Yes, I've seen those (they look awesome) and that's immediately what I thought of when you mentioned them. UC made Sam's, and Frodo's is kind of unnecessary since we already have Sting. It basically comes down to wanting to have a complete Fellowship set, and not being able to because Merry and Pippin got short-changed: no Noldorin daggers, and no Rohirrim and Gondorian blades either (the ones they received later.)JJByers wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:32 am Everything I used as an example with UC are things I've seen other talented people make. Merry and Pippins blades from the film to answer that question. Ray did a 3D print of them and had them on shapeways for awhile. Bobby has a video of them on his YouTube channel.
I'd really like all of these to be made. They could do a whole line of daggers and short swords. Add in Grima's and Boromir's dagger as well.Valkrist wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:44 am no Noldorin daggers, and no Rohirrim and Gondorian blades either (the ones they received later.)
Couldn't agree more! Add in Hadhafang's companion dagger also. These wouldn't be too expensive, and real space-savers too. Pity UC will never consider it as I don't think there would be much demand beyond us nutjob completists.N2darkness wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:58 amI'd really like all of these to be made. They could do a whole line of daggers and short swords. Add in Grima's and Boromir's dagger as well.Valkrist wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:44 am no Noldorin daggers, and no Rohirrim and Gondorian blades either (the ones they received later.)
Honestly, I think you would be surprised on the demand. You have long term and new collectors as well as dagger collectors as well. They should do another one of their polls online to see the type of interest they get.Valkrist wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:33 am Pity UC will never consider it as I don't think there would be much demand beyond us nutjob completists.
Agreed. These small blades would be great additions to any existing collection and a cost-reasonable way for new collectors to get started on LOTR weapons. I'd happily and instantly purchase all of the pieces that heve already been mentioned.N2darkness wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:39 amHonestly, I think you would be surprised on the demand. You have long term and new collectors as well as dagger collectors as well. They should do another one of their polls online to see the type of interest they get.Valkrist wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:33 am Pity UC will never consider it as I don't think there would be much demand beyond us nutjob completists.
A few Chinese Forges have been making red "Damascus" katana blades for years now. Also, Valyrian Steel has come out with a red "Damascus" blade for their Book Version Oathkeeper. Soooo it should be possible nowDeimos wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:15 pm The steel is "damasked" (damascus pattern) but in red, and a swordmaker already told me that damascus steel only comes in one color (tho' he fully understood the desire to have it in red as he makes mostly fantasy swords)
You know, it was a swordmaker (in Australia, I think) that told me that, and it came up in conversation when I mentioned the Barrow blades.Jash wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:21 pmA few Chinese Forges have been making red "Damascus" katana blades for years now. Also, Valyrian Steel has come out with a red "Damascus" blade for their Book Version Oathkeeper. Soooo it should be possible nowDeimos wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:15 pm The steel is "damasked" (damascus pattern) but in red, and a swordmaker already told me that damascus steel only comes in one color (tho' he fully understood the desire to have it in red as he makes mostly fantasy swords)
No, United has that one. I have detailed photos of it, so I'll dig them out when I am back in the office next week.JJByers wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:01 am @Nasnandos
Hey Kit do you still have Deathless? I am thinking about tweaking my Noble Collection one to look........ A whole lot better than what we got lol. Or could you just recommend colors. In AUJ is the hilt more gold colored or would you say just dry brush some brass or gold paint on the hilt at first? Thank you!
A process for red Damascus has been around since 2002. I know because it was first used on the black Damascus version of my Valermos sword, which ended up being black and red. We actually figured out how to do it by mistake, then it took forever to learn how to repeat it. Later it was used on some Shinwa katanas, then Honshu swords. The same process was used for the Valyrian Steel Oathkeeper that I worked on. The same factory made all of those blades.Jash wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:21 pm A few Chinese Forges have been making red "Damascus" katana blades for years now. Also, Valyrian Steel has come out with a red "Damascus" blade for their Book Version Oathkeeper. Soooo it should be possible now
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