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So my question is this: if UC were to do another production run of an item from LOTR, which item would you most like to see return?

Note that this is not for new LOTR items, this is just for items that have previously been released.

The high elven warrior sword and sword of Sam aren't options because BUDK just found some and probably satisfied most demand. Evils aren't options because they haven't sold well in the past. Most LE items aren't an option because they shouldn't be reproduced, but new UC can do whatever they want of course. Strider scabbard is not on here because UC recently retired Strider's sword.

This is just to get a general sense of where the collecting community's interests lie. It may be a bit skewed as many of us own the majority of these items, but in that case you can pick what you think would be the best decision from a UC perspective.

I'd like to see:
The sword of Eowyn
Strider's Elven Knife
Strider's ranger sword and scabbard

I would wish for Strider's ranger sword scabbard for me, and Eowyn's and Boromir's swords for all the fans who missed out on it the first time around.

Poll added - if I didn't include your choice, my apologies because I'm limited in how many I can add. Please reply with what you would have like to have seen.

Witch-king's helm is the only LE item on here because, let's face it, they fetch major bucks in the aftermarket, and they just re-released Sauron's stuff. Not saying they should do it.

erm.... was the poll here when you first posted the thread? ... if it was I kinda missed it

EDIT: never mind, I saw your post Nerdanel

[quote=""Lindir""]erm.... was the poll here when you first posted the thread? ... if it was I kinda missed it

EDIT: never mind, I saw your post Nerdanel [/quote]

I was wondering the same thing . . .

[quote=""Lindir""]erm.... was the poll here when you first posted the thread? ... if it was I kinda missed it
[/quote]

You were so quick to reply, I hadn't finished publishing the poll yet!

Alright, my choices are up: Boromir's sword, Eowyn's sword, and Strider's elven knife. However unlikely and remote the possibility may be.

Close behind that would be Hadhafang, but I am still hoping they might release a new Hobbit version with a wall plaque. Just think how cool King Thranduil and Lord Elrond's swords would look displayed horizontally together!

Boromir, Eowyn, Herugrim, Gimli's Bearded Axe, and Strider's Scabbard for me.

I voted Isildur's Sword as I missed it from BudK for $99 , just didn't have the extra at the time . Another item I previously sold and would not mind repurchasing is the High Elven Warrior Helm , just cause

No LE items!!!

Don't encourage UC to ruin our collections even more.

Yea, I'm with Val. I'm fine with any of the non LE items being put back into production (as I have nearly every weapon they have produced so far). However, I would much prefer they focus on Hobbit and LotR stuff they haven't made yet....OOOOOOOORRRRRR, they could focus on their quality assurance issues and customer service.

My choice would be as follow:

Eowyn sword.
Boromir sword.
Elven knife of Strider.
Walking axe of Gimli.
High Elven Warrior Helm.
HEWH because it's pretty rare to find for a decent price and that would be a grail to me to complete the line of High Elven weaponry cause i have the Shield en the Sword.

I voted for the things I dont have that I want. But I would rather them, IF they ever re-released items, then release them ONLY when I am good and ready to buy them

[quote=""Nerdanel""]Most LE items aren't an option because they shouldn't be reproduced, but new UC can do whatever they want of course.[/quote]

[quote=""Nerdanel""]Witch-king's helm is the only LE item on here because, let's face it, they fetch major bucks in the aftermarket, and they just re-released Sauron's stuff. Not saying they should do it. [/quote]

[quote=""Valkrist""]No LE items!!!

Don't encourage UC to ruin our collections even more. [/quote]

I'm hoping your frustrations truly lie with UC and not me. As much as I would love to own a high elven war helm, I'm not out begging UC to bring that back. I respect that it was a completed 5000 LE helm run, and I'm going to have to be satisfied with a Rivendell helm. I wasn't trying to encourage them, and I'd hoped I'd made that clear. That fact that only one person has voted for the Wiki helm thus far is a pretty clear signal that this is not a contender in this community.

I don't think UC is really interested in seeking out our poll, but if we collectively choose to present our ideas to UC via Facebook as Kit has sugested, I think we'd have more success if we all asked for front runners, rather than everyone asking for something different. At least that was my idea behind the poll. The Anduril scabbard was gone for nearly a decade, and voila, 1000 of them return for a short time. If I email Derek to let him know where our interests lie, I'd prefer to have something concrete, rather than just a hunch.

Ummmm...thoughts?

http://www.budk.com/product/The-Lord-of ... 159549.uts

http://www.budk.com/product/The-Lord-of ... 159550.uts

http://www.budk.com/product/The-Lord-of ... 159553.uts

Especially the one in the last link GW cause a lot of people seems to missed this beauty.
Luckely i found it two weeks ago in a shop brandnew for €295.

My High Elven Warrior Sword remains to come.
You may recall I am customizing it from long ago.

I just thought I'd bring this up so those of you still hoping to get a hold of one would know.

I haven't finished it yet, and what I'm doing remains to be seen.
If successful, I think at this point in time you all know what's coming.

[quote=""GuardianWolf""]Ummmm...thoughts?

http://www.budk.com/product/The-Lord-of ... 159549.uts

http://www.budk.com/product/The-Lord-of ... 159550.uts

http://www.budk.com/product/The-Lord-of ... 159553.uts[/quote]

My honest thoughts? I am so confused!

Well, actually I shouldn't be, because we figured out a long time ago we should be using reverse psychology when it comes to UC. We should be asking UC for the "RMC" instead of the most highly sought after swords.

Alright, enough with my sarcasm. I just have no idea why they're bringing Strider's sword back. No one was asking for this! And not just here, no one was asking for it on the Facebook poll. The only Strider item people were asking for was the Elven knife. Unless UC is very confused about the difference between the two, I don't understand this.

[quote=""Nasnandos""]As of this morning.

#1 - Anduril Scabbard, Striders Elven Knife, Glamdring Blue Scabbard, Boromir's Sword, High Elven War Sword.
#2 - Hadhafang, Gimlis Walking Axe, Gimlis Bearded Axe, Eowyn Sword.
#3 - There were about equal requests for the Legolas Scabbards, Gimlis Battle Axe, Isildurs Sword, High Elven War Helm, and Herugrum.

I think a few of those were already in the works before the poll, but hopefully several others may be added to the 'last chance' reissues.[/quote]

Second, while it makes sense to bring Hadhafang back if Elrond will be seen using it in the Hobbit films, I don't understand why it makes sense to bring it back as an LOTR Arwen's sword (she's not in the films, right?). Legolas' knives are essentially the same, and yet those were repackaged for the Hobbit. And, it still has the stand most of us probably wish was a wall plaque. Like the wall plaque for Thranduil's sword. But I suppose I am glad it is coming back, but I wish a little more thought went into this rerelease.

Next the HEWS. I guess don't understand why this one is being rushed back because it isn't being featured in the Hobbit films, and not nearly as many people are asking for it. Maybe because it doesn't have any leather in the grip.

All three of these are posted with no pomp, no announcements...and yet everyone knows about the Anduril scabbard that has yet to be added to the website? I'm suspicious of there being no dates either, but this can't possibly be old stock still...

Last point, I don't understand why UC solicits our requests, and then only kinda, sorta listens to them. Unless they are going to announce a bunch of other LOTR rereleases later, but I think that chance is slim. Why would UC want more to produce/stock more LOTR items than Hobbit items? But if they do bring more LOTR items back, then that is great, and you won't hear any complaints for me. Mostly I'm not understanding the rationale behind the choices for current rereleases, and I'm seeing this as decreasing the chances for items I really want to see brought back. So, I'm not complaining, because I love me some more LOTR, but I am confused...

I don't think the reappearance of these on BudK necessarily means they're coming back. It could just as easily be an error, but I found it strange that they're showing up on their LOTR page.

And as Kit's pointed out many times, the UC Facebook page and BudK site are not updated by people who know the ins and outs of UC's production.

This is simply curious to me that these are being relisted, and so soon after the poll on their Facebook page. Even IF these items were to be rereleased, it's strange that they're listing them now when they'd likely be available towards the end of the year (assuming their rerelease was put into motion after that FB poll).

I'd call it a good start. None of those pieces have been out of proudction for very long, that's probably why they're the first to come back. HEWS and Hadhafang were highly requested and Strider's Sword is easy to kick back into the production line. I suspect that these are the first of what I hope will be many, but at least more.

Looking at the Poll results most people voted for sword of éowyn too and that's what i want to be made too.

Hadhafang and HEWS are elvish weapons, and those are basically just UC printing money.

Strider's sword is an interesting development. I never picked one up as it didn't appeal to me much. My only thought is that, if UC is in the know, we may actually end up seeing Aragorn in the final Hobbit film despite media coverage to the contrary. Would easily e xp lain why the sword he would logically be using might be worth producing again...

[quote=""GuardianWolf""].....My only thought is that, if UC is in the know, we may actually end up seeing Aragorn in the final Hobbit film despite media coverage to the contrary. Would easily e xp lain why the sword he would logically be using might be worth producing again...[/quote]

If he shows up in the BofFA with his ranger sword it's going to be taller than he is .

Bilbo was born in 2890 TA. He was 50 when he traveled with the dwarves to Erebor, meaning about the year 2940.
Aragorn was born in 2931.....so, ummm, do the math, as they say.

He'd be nine or 10 years old.

The films have deviated in plenty of other ways to justify it. I refer specifically to this scene from The Two Towers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK6za19TyBk

Where (at least in the film universe) we learn that Aragorn is 87 years old. If The Hobbit films are meant to take place 60 years prior to LOTR, that would make Aragorn 27 years old.

I would not put it past the writers to have Aragorn show up in The Hobbit, and keep it quiet. Wouldn't really bother me all that much, either. No more than all of the other cameos, anyway.

I highly doubt that Strider's sword's release is indicative of Aragorn being in the HHobbit. Seems like a stretch to me, especially when UC frequently makes questionable decisions regardding Middle-Earth replicas. This wouldn't be the first dumb business decision they've made.

I think everyone has jumped to the conclusion that the reemergence of Strider's sword, Hadhafang, and the HEWS means that they're back in production. I'd bet a good chunk of my collection that they aren't. Lest we forget BudK's recent found stock fiasco. Kit mentioned that their warehouse is ginormous. And back when I worked in a warehouse that sent merchandise to stores, there were always found pallets of mixed merchandise that were sent to us by manufacturers. I wouldn't put this past them as anything more than found stock. I mean, the quickest way to tell would be for someone to purchase an item and then report back as to where the item was made (the HEWS I purchased when they reemerged had a Made in Taiwan sticker).

I would agree, but all the items are listed as 'backordered'. I don't recall what the HEWS showed up as a few weeks back. It could be that they have a very limited number and they're listing them as backordered so as not to really promise them to everyone. Time will tell.

[quote=""GuardianWolf""]I don't think the reappearance of these on BudK necessarily means they're coming back. It could just as easily be an error, but I found it strange that they're showing up on their LOTR page.

And as Kit's pointed out many times, the UC Facebook page and BudK site are not updated by people who know the ins and outs of UC's production.

This is simply curious to me that these are being relisted, and so soon after the poll on their Facebook page. Even IF these items were to be rereleased, it's strange that they're listing them now when they'd likely be available towards the end of the year (assuming their rerelease was put into motion after that FB poll).[/quote]

It's definitely curious. I floated the idea that these "rereleases" could just be old stock, but it doesn't make sense that they would be listed as "backordered" with no target release date. And, by putting it live in their website, BUDK is willing to take people's money already. The few times BUDK discovered stock previously, it was available immediately. I'm still wondering why they haven't put the Anduril scabbard up yet. That item actually has a target release date.

As for Hobbit vs. LOTR items, if these are indeed the "rereleases", I see it as decreasing the chances for other LOTR rereleases. If they are only stocking 16 Hobbit items (assuming the Orcrist scabbard comes back) I can't imagine they would be willing to stock many more LOTR items (14, assuming these are right and Anduril scabbard is coming soon). That doesn't say much for the Hobbit brand though.

I'm sure we'll find out what's going on soon enough. I'm glad I don't have to worry about these pieces though. And I'm very happy with my old HEWS, despite the mashed up box.

And, I'm feeling extra snarky this morning. I like how this guy lists a HEWS every time they pop up on the BUDK website: http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Elven-Warr ... 417f9d626c

Same goes for his Strider sword and Hadhafang. Milking his stock until the last minute. I'm clearly on ebay too much, but I don't like these tactics.

[quote=""Nerdanel""]And, I'm feeling extra snarky this morning. I like how this guy lists a HEWS every time they pop up on the BUDK website: http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Elven-Warr ... 417f9d626c

Same goes for his Strider sword and Hadhafang. Milking his stock until the last minute. I'm clearly on ebay too much, but I don't like these tactics.[/quote]
I know this ebay seller foxfox for quite some time.

[quote=""Dark Shadow""]I know this ebay seller foxfox for quite some time.[/quote]

Yeah, and I think I've picked on this seller before. I'm sure he's a nice guy, and clearly loves these film replicas. But I don't like when people buy up the stock of these replicas and release them with the intent of getting the most money possible. Then they get caught redhanded with extra stock when a dealer like BUDK comes along with a reasonably priced one. When I bought my newly discovered Sam sword from BUDK for $100, this guy had one listed for $400. The same thing is happening again, BUDK puts cheap ones on their website, and this guy decides to let a few trickle out before collectors realize there's a cheaper place to find one. The review quotes in his listing are even copied directly from the BUDK website. Really? I feel bad for collector's who fall for this.

Edited to add: I don't mean to pull this thread off topic by calling this guy out, but it would be nice to hear something definitive from UC regarding rereleases so collectors can make informed buying decisions.

To make such a profit certainly for a shop that's totally unacceptable.

And just like that, they are gone... http://www.budk.com/category/Movies-TV- ... 2/2993.uts

As are the old 2nd Age shield and all the baddies (Witchking & scimitar)

On the subject of old LotR items, here's a random thought for all: why is the scrollwork on Hadhafang's blade engraved with gold but the scrollwork on Strider's Even Knife left empty and grey? I just noticed it today.

[quote=""Fingolfin""]On the subject of old LotR items, here's a random thought for all: why is the scrollwork on Hadhafang's blade engraved with gold but the scrollwork on Strider's Even Knife left empty and grey? I just noticed it today.[/quote]

Perhaps it was because of who the weapons belonged to. Hadhafang in the movies (I know it wasn't in the book) belonged to Idril, an elven princess and you know royalty like their gold I'm not sure who Aragorn's dagger belonged to, so perhaps it didn't have an owner and they thought it wasn't worth filling the inscription with gold, or the previous owner couldn't afford to fill it with gold? Just thoughts.

As Idril is the daughter of Turgon, why is the inscription on her sword written in Sindar but Glamdring is inscribed with Cirth runes? I ask because I imagine that the swords would have been made around similar times. Has this been brought up in the past?

I think for all the effort Wingnut and WETA put into such lore details, and they've done a GREAT job, compared to most other film series, sometimes the ball gets dropped.
So in the EE commentary for FOTR Peter, Fran and Philippa all make the same comment which is in Moria, when Sting is glowing crazy, and yet Glamdring isn't....they joke maybe they'll fix that in a later release.

Glad for the BDs they didn't, as had they in the way Lucasfilm does their changes, it'd possibly be purple instead of blue, and they'd claim it was always supposed to be purple.

im late on this one but of course Eowyn sword!!!!

[quote=""Balrog3019""]im late on this one but of course Eowyn sword!!!![/quote]

Bullseye buddy let's pray for that to happen.

Still no sign from Nerdanel (Jessica) at all ????????????????

I'm worried for quite some time,is there anyone that have heard from her ?

I have send her an email a couple months ago but no responding so far.

well.i must say boromir,sword and the sheld ,that never got into produktion.

Dark shadow ,my freind ,i dont think that Nerdanel is a her ,but he, is a him.
So dont worry about (,no responese).
Just stay tuned in forum . hey.
even there is a lack ,whot habbent to vally huu

am.dk wrote:well.i must say boromir,sword and the sheld ,that never got into produktion.

Dark shadow ,my freind ,i dont think that Nerdanel is a her ,but he, is a him.
So dont worry about (,no responese).
Just stay tuned in forum . hey.
even there is a lack ,whot habbent to vally huu

No AM, Nerdanel is definitely a woman...name of Jessica.

She took off for the Australian Outback in August 2014.... and that is the last we heard from her.
I emailed her a couple times in 2015 and ,like Dark, got no response.

You are totally wrong am.dk and Deimos has right for 200% I know Nerdanel (Jessica) for a long time cause we had lots of very nice and long conversations.
My worries are still there and I pray that she's in good hands and I'll keep waiting for her return.

my peronel faver is ofcause ,boromir sheild.why ? because it have some vikingich akt to it

dark shadow and deimos.,lets go and find jessieca.

am.dk this is not a joke my friend we honestly don't have a clue what did happened with Jessica and if we know where to start looking we allready did believe me but none of us know anything about her and I have fears for the worst.

Unfortunately people come and go on internet forums. We have lost many members throughout the years do to life in general. Lots of times, people may be daily visitors but after getting out of the routine of getting on the forums for a month or so... they kind of become part of your past. People move on. That's not to say that is the case in this situation, but a regular that no longer comes to the forums is not unheard of at all.

blade is right ,peaple come and goes .sometime after years ,not to on forum ,it just take a little tutch to inter..like a vacasion to kroatia ,maby?ore austalia.
(GOT).
AND THEN ,huu ,i just need to inter the old uc forum, just to see whot is up .

No dark ,i dont joke about missing person.
last time online in forum was at april 19 2014.
thats is over a year ago.l

Are you talk about yourself am.dk where on earth have you been for a year and a half buddy.Not in prsison I hope.

HEHe NO my frind ,there is no way me to go ,to prison ore get lokket up,in some way.
if this is the end of it,i will prefer dieing as a free man,.

Hoding ,the bormir swoerd and the boromir shield,and ragner axe ,and a skramasx at my belt.and afcouse i will apruse my enemy whit rage holding rolols war axe.