Star Wars: The Force Awakens
1Seems like we need to have a thread on this! I have seen the movie. I will withhold any comment for the time being.
"Olorin I was in the West that is forgotten...."
Very cool to relive it with your dad. How do you say "May the Force be with you" in Portuguese?Valkrist wrote:Yes, and thank you.
I won't be seeing it for at least a couple of weeks, but I don't expect you guys to wait so I'll just avoid the thread.
My dad took me to see the first movie back in '77, so this year I'm returning the favour.
You or rather, the article mentions how the critics have given it high marks.Olorin wrote:OK, here are some preliminary thoughts from me. There aren't any plot spoilers in what I'm going to say, but if you don't want your expectations affected by my views, better skip this post!
First, here is a very good, mostly spoiler-free review that pretty much sums up what I found lacking about the movie. http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/18/1054 ... -nostalgia
.... And as the article I linked mentions, the critics have largely consciously decided to overlook the fact that this is a slick, barely concealed remake of A New Hope and have given it high marks.
... However, on the whole it felt to me like a collection of parts, some good, some bad, rather than a cohesive whole. If you're going to sell a very derivative story, it's going to have to be slicker than mixing and matching a lot of things we've seen before.
I really liked BB-8 also. That surprises me because most people always loved R2...and I never did. But BB-8 was little short of adorable.Arwyniel wrote:I enjoyed it for what it was. I thought BB-8 stole the show.
The First Order, from what I understand, are basically the remnants of the old Empire. General Hux's father was an in charge of Stormtrooper training during Palpatine's rule and created the training regimes that Stormtroopers are put through. Mon Mothma and the Rebel Alliance reformed the galactic republic, and so the need for the Rebellion was over. However, Leia felt concerned. I'm not entirely sure what happened, but there are treaties in place that allow the existence of The First Order, however they're not allowed to produce space crafts or weapons. So TIE fighters, Hux's Star Destroyer named "The Finaliser" and certainly Starkiller base are in violation of this treaty. Snoke controls The First Order from afar, but Hux and Kylo lead - much like Tarkin and Vader.Valkrist wrote:I'm not talking about annoying minor plot holes like how Maz got a hold of Luke's lightsabre, which is something that we may yet hear about in the sequels, but obviously important things like who and what exactly the New Order is and stands for (they are definitely more than a mere remnant of the Empire,) how did the Resistance evolve from the Rebel Alliance, what is the difference and relationship between them and the Republic? Kind of important contextual background information that we are sorely missing. It really, really bothered me that the writers could not have used a couple of simple lines of dialogue to shed some light on these kind of things.
Anyhow, my one single, biggest regret walking out of that movie theatre? The fact that I lost my only chance to see two of my childhood heroes interacting on screen again in the setting that I remember with such fondness: Luke Skywalker and Han Solo. That, for me, was a true tragedy.
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