Deimos wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:46 pm
No, now comes the part where I say: Huh???!!!! The movie has Grima poisoning Theodred???
How do figure that? I've watched the extended version at least a dozen times and I've never picked that up.
So before I really appear clueless about this (I mean, any more than I already do) , please point and push me to the scene/dialog where this is indicated.
Clueless is the last thing I would ever accuse you of being.
No, there is no scene showing Grima poisoning Theodred, nor is there dialogue referencing such a thing. It's merely an inference that you can work backwards to in the way that Grima's character is established and everything we learn about him moving forward.
It's basically a fabrication within a fabrication. You have to admit it's certainly possible, if not likely, given what we see of Grima. As for Weta, it is headed by Richard Taylor and employs dozens of people that worked directly on the movies so who's to say they didn't have access to material that didn't make the final cut in the movie, such as an actual passage in the script that confirms this?
To give an example of how far their license reaches, they released a Gondor helm for sale that is never seen in the movies, but was designed as part of concept art. My point is they can and will use and say things that we didn't see onscreen because their merchandising license permits them to. That's the only justification I can see for that writeup and why it doesn't bother me in the least. The movie already messed up that part, so how does this make it any worse when it's actually a plausible claim?
Going back to your initial comment, has PJ infected Weta? Oh yes, he most certainly has, but whether you can or can't rationalize the claim that Grima poisoned Theodred, I'm merely showing how that that conclusion could be reached and made by them, even if you or I never saw such a thing happen.
Now you can tell me to shut up without fearing you're missing something. I'm just being more forgiving about this because I've long accepted that these movies happen in an alternate Middle-earth, not the one we know and love from the books. If they want to make more stuff up, who cares?